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Default 03-15-2019, 02:36 AM

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Custom mapping isn't really going to work for the S63. Just run map1 or map2 and enjoy the gains.
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Default 03-17-2019, 11:46 AM

Guys, I can not find BCM installation instructions. The link in this thread leads to the notice that BCM for N63 is no longer supported. But we have S63. Help, please.

...3) The DME specific fuel and BCM wires attach to the DME just like the N63 system referenced here: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showpo...92&postcount=3
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Default 03-17-2019, 09:29 PM

BCM is no longer supported for the S63. Just run the TMAP and CANbus wires only.


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Hi Guys
Anyone still have an older firmware for this JB4 have issues with trims maxed out.
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I’m trying to remove my JB4 since the new buyer does not want it. I need to uninstall the BCM but the Installation instructions (which I could’ve used to reverse the installation) have been removed. Anybody happen to know what wires go where?

And I understand not supporting certain features on the JB4 for the S63 but why remove completely the installation instructions vs just putting up a disclaimer so that those of us who purchased one years ago can see how to take it off?


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Default 07-15-2019, 03:53 PM

I followed N63 instructions that basically had asterisks for the differences between the N54, N63 and S63.


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I’m trying to remove my JB4 since the new buyer does not want it. I need to uninstall the BCM but the Installation instructions (which I could’ve used to reverse the installation) have been removed. Anybody happen to know what wires go where?

And I understand not supporting certain features on the JB4 for the S63 but why remove completely the installation instructions vs just putting up a disclaimer so that those of us who purchased one years ago can see how to take it off?
Just undo the DME wires one at a time so they are not mixed up. Might still be an old install video on youtube we never deleted it.


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Default 07-15-2019, 05:08 PM

Thanks to both of you guys for the quick responses. I’m sure I’ll get it figured out one way or another.


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Question 11-09-2019, 09:12 AM

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My car is the 2010 X5M s63b44a.

I just bought a BMS stage1 for the s63 harness a model with Bluetooth kit.

[IMG]http://m.qpic.cn/psb?/V13mgfcA2QQl8p/dxP0swWmUqsVWp*HxzSOYoqi7L3rKmRbIZo*JTT0Ea4!/b/dL8AAAAAAAAA&bo=7gI2Be4CNgURCT4!&rf=viewer_4[/IMG]

The Bluetooth kit is connected to one of the two red wires and can be connected to the mobile phone normally.



When upgrading firmware, I failed every time I reached 239 / 432. I've tried it hundreds of times.



At present, the device can be connected through a mobile phone, but it can't be used, so I have to remove it first.

[IMG]http://m.qpic.cn/psb?/V13mgfcA2QQl8p/IuKmbOm*OuPmbjEkDozyE4CYDbomC9P4nVPLUN*oTXA!/b/dIQAAAAAAAAA&bo=gAJpBTwDAAcDCfo!&rf=viewer_4[/IMG]

I don't have a USB cable, only a mobile phone can connect with it. What's the solution?

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Default 11-09-2019, 12:12 PM

Looks like you're trying to install JB4 software onto a stage 1...they are not the same type of piggyback. JB4 allows a bunch of user adjustability while the stage 1 just plugs in and that's it.


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Default It can't be used now. What else can I do? - 11-10-2019, 07:52 PM

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Looks like you're trying to install JB4 software onto a stage 1...they are not the same type of piggyback. JB4 allows a bunch of user adjustability while the stage 1 just plugs in and that's it.
It can't be used now. What else can I do?
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Default 11-11-2019, 08:42 PM

Email us we may be able to email you Stage1 firmware for it.


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Default Thank you! - 11-11-2019, 08:49 PM

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Email us we may be able to email you Stage1 firmware for it.
Thank you very much! My email is 525432435@qq.com
It's better to have a tutorial. Thank you!
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Email us we may be able to email you Stage1 firmware for it.
Thank you very much. The problem has been solved

Would you like to consult Stage1 default MAP1 for other maps? What is the corresponding description?
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Default 02-25-2020, 05:06 PM

Question regarding this....


I had a jb4 w/bcm installed for a bit and then took it out and was going to reinstall and found it isn’t even recommended now w/bcm and fuel controls just curious why?

Was this found to be causing problems?

I used the fuel and bcm before without problems should I not do it this way, bummer this got canned I enjoyed the idea of e30 again

I understand the risks just curious

Will I still get all the functionality of the jb4 w/ logging and code clearing etc for my high flow *** less pipe?

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Default 02-25-2020, 06:27 PM

If everything worked great on your car then go for it and install it all again.

If you're having issues, remove the BCM and fuel wires.

Yes, you'll still have all the other logging, JB4 features, etc active.


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Default 04-05-2020, 03:32 PM

Guys, Quick question. I know you guys are not recommending installing the fuel wires or bcm anymore but the JB4 I bought has both. I have referred to a protecons install post and the wiring color for the BCM is correct but I do not have Purple or green fuel wires for the JB4 ECU. I have brown and black. I read in a previous post terry said they ran out of Purple and green wire and used brown and black instead.

As i understand
Purple Female - Black plug #45
Purple Male - Yellow/White from Black plug #45

Green Female - Grey plug #44
Green Male - Yellow/White from Grey plug #44.

I have coming out the JB4, my Green and black for Canbus, The blue going to the BCM, then I have 2 Brown Male/Female and 2 Black Male/Female. Which ones go to the black plug and which one go to the grey plug?

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Default 04-05-2020, 03:45 PM

I haven't read this thread in a while, sorry :-/, but who's recommended against the BCM? I'm running mine since the day I installed everything. As for installation, I'm sure there's a link in this thread somewhere for the wiring...if I recall it's the same as an N63.


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Default 04-06-2020, 10:17 AM

Terry has replied a few times to just use the canbus wires and tmaps only as the fuel wires arent generally needed for map 1/2. I would like to run the fuel wires and bcm as thats what i purchased.

Ive read the install diy for the n63 but the problem is coming out of the jb4 unit they have the green and purple fuel wires and the wires coming out of mine are brown and black not purple and green so im not sure if brown or black females go to pin 45 of the black connector or pin 44 of the grey connector.

I read that they just ran out of purple and green wire which is why i dont have it but i also bought it used so I dont have instructions and the previous owner just labelled them in/out.

Thank you for any help
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Default 04-06-2020, 10:24 AM

Ahh, I bounce back and forth between 1 & 6 since for some reason mine likes to boost around 20psi and then tapers down to like 12 after a week...switch maps and it's back into the 20's. I have no idea why.


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Default 04-22-2020, 09:11 PM

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Email us we may be able to email you Stage1 firmware for it.

Hey terry wondering if you could provide any insight on this? Im currently just on tmap and obd running map 1. Seems like i need the fuel wires to run map 2?


*04-05-2020, 03:32 PM

Guys, Quick question. I know you guys are not recommending installing the fuel wires or bcm anymore but the JB4 I bought has both. I have referred to a protecons install post and the wiring color for the BCM is correct but I do not have Purple or green fuel wires for the JB4 ECU. I have brown and black. I read in a previous post terry said they ran out of Purple and green wire and used brown and black instead.

As i understand
Purple Female - Black plug #45
Purple Male - Yellow/White from Black plug #45

Green Female - Grey plug #44
Green Male - Yellow/White from Grey plug #44.

I have coming out the JB4, my Green and black for Canbus, The blue going to the BCM, then I have 2 Brown Male/Female and 2 Black Male/Female. Which ones go to the black plug and which one go to the grey plug?

Thanks again
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Default 04-23-2020, 11:01 AM

If your older JB4 system has fuel wires just cut them off or tuck them out of the way as they are no longer supported. Map2 does not require them.


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Default 04-23-2020, 11:02 AM

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I haven't read this thread in a while, sorry :-/, but who's recommended against the BCM? I'm running mine since the day I installed everything. As for installation, I'm sure there's a link in this thread somewhere for the wiring...if I recall it's the same as an N63.
We long ago simplified the N63 JB4 product and it only includes TMAP connections and CANbus now. No BCM, no fuel wires. If you have an older system and its working for you that's fine but we no longer support them.


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Default 04-23-2020, 12:43 PM

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If your older JB4 system has fuel wires just cut them off or tuck them out of the way as they are no longer supported. Map2 does not require them.
Thank you Terry for the quick reply! I really appreciate it!
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